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Originally Posted by JGBerry
1) sorry about the run on sentences, i was writing the reply in a rush combined with the fact that i was heated from argonNJ's reply to my post. him and i get into squabbles that stem back to last summer. i am an educated person with a degree in mechanical engineering degree. i am perfectly capable of writing full complete sentences. sorry it was unbearable for you to read. i do want to note that you also did the same thing as i did in your response towards the end.
2) i appreciate your personal "exception" to one of my points, but that most certainly was not a theory of mine. it was rather what i have experienced at the company/division that i work for and with friends who are execs, etc. i am glad that the macbook works for you and suits your needs.
3) as far as people changing their desires to meet a product, i see that everyday but i see it most with apple products. i think they have a brilliant marketing department which can, for example, take a 1GB mp3 player without a screen and sell it for $80. i think it's great they can do that, but my point was that while people have every right to purchase whatever they want, i think some of apple's fans are pathetic. maybe i am being harsh, but during my last year at college i definitely saw plenty of that going around.
4) when i said that i purchased the ipod, i was not contradicting myself at all. in fact, i was trying to prove one of my points. itunes is locked down to apple devices ONLY, and since all of my music was in iTunes (26GB+) it would be an enormous headache and months and months to re-organize everything. i pretty much had to buy an ipod at that point, and while i don't regret the decision, i am quick to note there are better mp3 players out there that are cheaper and offer MORE features and that are better built. the microsoft zune has better build quality than the ipod, and that's not even debatable at all.
5) i have used all of the operating systems. it wasn't that long ago that i graduated college and while our campus was a "pc" campus, we had 2 mac labs. they were great for photoshop and digital media for posters etc, but when it came time to do my work, they were a pain. many word and excel files sent from computers running windows would arrive with the formatting messed up and it was just an overall pain to use. many matlab m.files + associated programs or solidworks CAD files would not work at all. even after using windows XP on the apple OS, it still had issues. for the kinds of things i use, OSX does not cut it. i at least need windows, but linux could cut it a guess. if i was only doing web browsing, documents, spreadsheets, etc then a mac would be fine for me i guess. but for anyone who does serious computing, they will easily realize that apple doesn't cut it.
i am glad that apple's products suit you well, it sure seems like you have them for all of your electronic needs. i do not deny that apple does not make quality products, but i feel i can get the bigger bang for my buck by not going with apple (especially since they don't suit my needs). the actual original intent of my post towards earlier part of this thread was to criticize the apple fan-boy'ism which is more rampant than with any other manufacturer. more than blackberry, more than sony, more than microsoft...more than any other thing i know of (except for full-blown fads). the initial example that i used was the success of the ipod shuffle and the fact that it doesn't have a screen, and somehow "no screen" turned into a hot-selling feature.
i can see why you took the time out of your day as a CEO to reply to my post, as what i said most likely hit close to home. you own many apple products, but you most likely don't fall into the apple fan-boy'ism/blind consumerism category that i was talking about. you probably know what you are doing with computers, and your best option involved apple products. need not worry, my posts were most likely not directed at people like you.
ever since i got into an argument with an admin and i was unnecessarily "warned" for using a supposed offensive word, which is used by almost all people in this forum (the word "damn"), i have been cautious to get into any direct arguments with admins. i see that you are the founder of the BBF, and i think that is great that you created a forum like this for people to spread their ideas and opinions on blackberry topics (and topics such as what is being discussed in this thread). we may have disagreeing opinions on this thread topic, and that's fine. agree to disagree. if you want to talk with me further about anything feel free to PM me. i just wanted a chance to speak my opinion on your reply, as you did on my reply.
have a good night,
-JGBerry
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Woah. I am not a power hungry freak trying to get my next fix. This is a discussion, and you are providing your opinion, even if I am on the different side of the opinion, there is no need for you to apologize for the run on sentences, nor is there a need for you to be worried about getting warned or anything else.
Please, do speak your mind, don't let what is written under my name stop you from making your opinions.
Back ontopic.
Apple was successful for many reasons with its ipod shuffle, and two of the largest reasons is build quality and itunes support. As far as I see it, the fact that Itunes does not work with other mp3 players is part of Apple's overall product. You don't see many people put KIA engines into BMW's, do you? In terms of fanboy consumerism, you are totally right, I don't deny that its present, my point is that its a much smaller margin of people then you make it out to be.
I am also trying to show you that Apple is not only about clever marketing, I see it present as smart marketing, where they show the functions of a product extremely well, with only the product being focused on. It's about releasing a product that works well for its given purposes.
I have never used a PC that can organize my 16,000+ pictures, use the functions of the internet, and edit video as well as my mac. Putting mac in my category of machines that serve my purpose, if mac's product line up does NOT serve yours.. why do you dare to comment about a brand that has nothing to do with you?
It's like me going out and complaining about a manufacturer of tampons, which I have absolutely no reason to, or use for.