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09-24-2007, 03:49 PM
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Camera disabled - way around security?
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I doubt there is a single solution, but has anyone found a way to enable their camera when using the Curve on a corporate BES?
I have searched the forums and have not found a response.
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09-24-2007, 03:50 PM
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NO! it is impossible. If your IT policy restricts camera usage, you are SOL. Sorry.
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09-24-2007, 03:55 PM
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I doubt there is a single solution, but has anyone found a way to enable their camera when using the Curve on a corporate BES?
I have searched the forums and have not found a response.
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Can't be done, and you shouldn't even be trying.
The IT Policy placed on your device (which disables the Camera) was put there for a reason. It would be unwise to attempt to circumvent that.
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09-24-2007, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by pdxbb
I doubt there is a single solution, but has anyone found a way to enable their camera when using the Curve on a corporate BES?
I have searched the forums and have not found a response.
Thank you
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just a friendly FYI its not a good idea to go around here begging to break into things alot of people take offense to this real quick.
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09-24-2007, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by pdxbb
I doubt there is a single solution, but has anyone found a way to enable their camera when using the Curve on a corporate BES?
I have searched the forums and have not found a response.
Thank you
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How do you disable the camera. I use an outside company that manages my BES and I need to disable this option for the users.
Thanks
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09-24-2007, 03:59 PM
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Do not take offense to this question, unless you work for my corp IT Security.
I am not trying to "break into" anything, but rather use a device that I am required to carry 24/7 like a leash from my corporation.
Thank you for those that responded, your answers are unfortunately what I expected.
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09-24-2007, 04:08 PM
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How do you disable the camera. I use an outside company that manages my BES and I need to disable this option for the users.
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~~ IT Policy > Camera Policy Group > Disable Camera = True
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09-24-2007, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by pdxbb
Do not take offense to this question, unless you work for my corp IT Security.
I am not trying to "break into" anything, but rather use a device that I am required to carry 24/7 like a leash from my corporation.
Thank you for those that responded, your answers are unfortunately what I expected.
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ok bad words I used but still same difference you are trying to get around something that was put in place by the people who own it.
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09-24-2007, 06:15 PM
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If you have an "in" with your IT / BES administrator / security group you could have them copy the current IT policy and change it so it will allow your camera, and only apply that IT policy to you.
It can be done, and it's about 2 minutes worth of work for an experienced BES admin. At least this is a proper way to go about it and you won't catch flak this way.
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09-24-2007, 07:47 PM
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At least this is a proper way to go about it and you won't catch flak this way.
Proper? For whom?
This is a really good way for an IT/BES admin, and the user, to lose their jobs.
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09-24-2007, 08:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pdxbb
Do not take offense to this question, unless you work for my corp IT Security.
I am not trying to "break into" anything, but rather use a device that I am required to carry 24/7 like a leash from my corporation.
Thank you for those that responded, your answers are unfortunately what I expected.
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If you dislike your job that much circumventing their security policies may be a great way to make sure you never have to carry that 'leash' around again.
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09-25-2007, 02:00 AM
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Proper? For whom?
This is a really good way for an IT/BES admin, and the user, to lose their jobs.
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If you notice, I also mentioned the security group, if he were to ask the BES administrator I would assume he would appreciate his job enough to consult with the correct people at his location.
I am the BES administrator for our company and while I can see it being turned off as a blanket policy, I could also understand enabling this use for a user that wishes to use his device and have access to his corporate email as well. In the sales world this is a pretty common thing, the sales reps buy their BB and foot a higher bill while the company gets the CAL and helps them use it to improve their productivity.
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09-25-2007, 02:05 AM
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It never hurts to ask. Many times the BES admin has the authority to do that if he/she thinks it poses no risk to corporate security.
pdxbb, these are experienced IT people you're talking with in here. They've given you good and valid advice. Talk to your BES Admin about it or forget about it. Those are the two options. There is no way to circumvent it, even if you wanted to. There is a method for removing IT policy from a device but once you do, you are disconnected from the BES and no more email, etc. When you connect again, the IT policy pushes back again. It's a waste of time.
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09-25-2007, 05:57 AM
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If you notice, I also mentioned the security group, if he were to ask the BES administrator I would assume he would appreciate his job enough to consult with the correct people at his location.
I am the BES administrator for our company and while I can see it being turned off as a blanket policy, I could also understand enabling this use for a user that wishes to use his device and have access to his corporate email as well. In the sales world this is a pretty common thing, the sales reps buy their BB and foot a higher bill while the company gets the CAL and helps them use it to improve their productivity.
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Ownership of the device doesn't equate to the having the right to circumvent company policy. Maybe secuity is more loose in your company, but where I am if there's a company-wide policy that dictates "no cameras"... then there's no cameras. Doesn't matter if a salesperson paid for their own device with their own money, and even pays for their own phone bill.
Any device on a company BES should be subject to corporate policy. No exceptions.
We don't even allow personal devices on our BES, mainly for reasons such as this.
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05-19-2008, 01:01 PM
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What happens if you buy a "used" phone and the camera was disabled by the admin? That was my dilemma. I wiped Pearl, reloaded the OS and upgraded firmware. Tried JL Cmnder... nothing worked.
Then I contacted a person who sells them and he passed on a way to edit the registry and I was able to enable the camera.
So, for some of us, we are not bypassing some corporate security measure - we are simply trying to get the value we paid for.
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Originally Posted by penguin3107
Ownership of the device doesn't equate to the having the right to circumvent company policy. Maybe secuity is more loose in your company, but where I am if there's a company-wide policy that dictates "no cameras"... then there's no cameras. Doesn't matter if a salesperson paid for their own device with their own money, and even pays for their own phone bill.
Any device on a company BES should be subject to corporate policy. No exceptions.
We don't even allow personal devices on our BES, mainly for reasons such as this.
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05-19-2008, 01:04 PM
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Search on "Remove IT Policy" on a procedure on how to remove an IT Policy.
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05-19-2008, 01:55 PM
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So, for some of us, we are not bypassing some corporate security measure - we are simply trying to get the value we paid for.
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True -- but it's not germane to this thread (see OP).
As mentioned, there are instructions for removing the IT policy on a device no longer attached to a BES. Removing the IT policy on a BB still on a BES, aside from being a bad idea, is pointless as the IT policy will be pushed right back to the device.
An alternate option is to buy your own device and to keep it off the company BES.
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Originally Posted by pdxbb
I am not trying to "break into" anything, but rather use a device that I am required to carry 24/7 like a leash from my corporation.
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Being required to carry it isn't justification for attempting to bypass IT policy. Your employer and/or BES admin apparently cared enough to bother to setup and enforce the IT policy and it's likely that they have disciplinary actions for attempting to circumvent their policies. The validity of your employer's reason doesn't matter. You're stuck with it as it is company property.
If you're unhappy about having to carry a company BB then you need to take it up with your employer.
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05-20-2008, 11:30 AM
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Reading this thread... I have to chuckle at the request and loved some of the responses.
This is like saying..... I'm required to have a laptop at work for my day-to-day business..... and I have a firewall at work which restricts some things I can do and places the net will allow me to go ..... so I want to circumvent the firewalls to view porn sites, gambling sites.. and any sites my company says I shouldn't go to..... as I'm just trying to get the value out of my laptop and put the 'cpu/graphics' to the test.
some companies have real 'reasons' to disable such features. Manufacturing companies are one such type. They don't want people/employees taking pictures of their processes and sending them out there, on blogs, to photo sites, where competitors might see them. How about those who work at Boeing or other sites which might do business with our military. I know those who work for Boeing can't even have a BB that has a camera in it (that is company issued). and I'm sure if they end up with some BBs that have cams .. they will disable them as it is too easy to take pics of the goings on. I would think BANKING might be another.... so employees aren't hanging around with their camera-ready cell phones taking videos of you and your safety deposit boxes.. or whatnot.
You want the cam to work ... don't be so cheap... go get your own on a consumer plan and pay $30 or so for an unlimited data plan and you can take pics.. set up your own email accounts.. and so much more.
If the system is set up on your corp network and BES ... it is theirs. I'm sure they paid for the BB to begin with and it is theirs. Circumvent all you want ... but you certainly put yourself at risk by altering the system from how it was given to you. someone will find out what you did.... and next thing you know you could be out on the street lookin for a job simply because you wanted to use your business owned device for personal use.... good luck... wish ya the best ... but don't send your resume my way if ya need a job... LOLOLOL
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