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Old 08-30-2007, 10:23 PM   #21
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no i do not see any monopoly at all. business level phones? what is that 5% of the worldwide sales? not really going to qualify as a monopoly in my mind.
They would take what they like of the BB OS and incorporate it into WM.

Argon, not sure i agree that mobile linux, osx, and symbian should be called a curiosity, many business people use those OSs everyday. And I think in here we do not give Nokia enough credit, they are major players outside the US.
Its called free market, corp. will always try to maximize profits, not always to the benefit of the consumer.

This is really a waste of a thread though because this sounds like an unfounded rumor.
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Old 08-30-2007, 11:20 PM   #22
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hasn't this rumor for the past couple years?
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Old 08-31-2007, 04:33 PM   #23
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Not a monoply in the industry, however in this section. No big deal i still think its not going to happen.
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Old 09-02-2007, 03:34 AM   #24
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Un-frikin'-believable!

BTW - MSFT can very easily go ahead and pay over a 20% premium for RIMM, given its super large current cash & cash equivalent reserves at hand, not to mention a larger premium that they can pay if the deal were to be financed via a good chunk of debt (yes, I know about the lending concerns given the sub prime bubble collapse, but we're talking about MSFT here which is AA rated I believe)

Not sure whether they will incorporate RIMMs tech into windoze mobile or whether they will just scuttle ship (i.e. RIMM), just to "kill" their most feared push email competition

Either ways, this is a concern for the BB community if the rumor ever became truth - can't imagine living in a MSFT led, RIM world or worse - windozed blackberries...

Pretty darn diabolical & devious if you come to think about it....
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Old 09-02-2007, 08:39 AM   #25
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Not sure whether they will incorporate RIMMs tech into windoze mobile or whether they will just scuttle ship (i.e. RIMM), just to "kill" their most feared push email competition
All they want out of RIM is it out of the game and its patents, so no one else can use them. As far as M$ goes, they think Win Mobile is the greatest anyway and would have no use to incorporate BB OS into Win Mobile.

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Either ways, this is a concern for the BB community if the rumor ever became truth - can't imagine living in a MSFT led, RIM world or worse - windozed blackberries...
Yup and many here have outright dismissed the rumor. M$ is dangerous and all the "it will never happen" folks should check the history of this predatory company to see how many others had said the same thing.

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Pretty darn diabolical & devious if you come to think about it....
This is how M$ has always run its business. Didn't you know that?
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Old 09-02-2007, 09:32 PM   #26
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Any takeover would simply be to eliminate the competition. And once it is eliminated, M$ couldn't care less if customers thought BB OS was better or not. Business would turn toward Win Mobile as there would be no other choice. M$ would entrench themselves through proprietary lock ins, just like on the desktop and soon they would be the defacto mobile OS, with the iphone and linux just a curiosity, not ment for business. Yes this is totally a possibility and I wouldn't put it past those scumbags at Redmond to attempt to conquer yet another market, not be quality or innovation, but good old dirty tricks. They have done it before, they [B
WILL[/B] do it again.
I can not imagine this ever happening! I can see M$ going into some sort of partnership with RIM, take what they want and giving RIM a bad deal. M$ did something like that to Apple back in the 90's. As I recall. The deal fell through once M$ got what they wanted.

Either way, this is certainly the ultimate nightmare for RIM and it's users.
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Old 09-03-2007, 12:32 AM   #27
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I would seriously get a motorola razr if something like this ever came to pass.

Then I would slice my wrists and make snow angels. Please let this just be a rumor >.>
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Old 09-03-2007, 08:02 AM   #28
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I could really see Microsoft going in and buying into RIM stock so to get their hands on (steal) the technology. That's been Microsoft's trademark from the get-go anyways. I just hope that this is totally hearsay and RIM not go into any agreements with Microsoft.
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Old 09-03-2007, 08:59 AM   #29
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Here is an article I found that also speculates on the buy-out and also why it will probably not happen.

Microsoft purchase of RIM nice to consider, but unlikely

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I would seriously get a motorola razr if something like this ever came to pass.

Then I would slice my wrists and make snow angels. Please let this just be a rumor >.>
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Here is an article I found that also speculates on the buy-out and also why it will probably not happen.

Microsoft purchase of RIM nice to consider, but unlikely
This statement in the article says it all:

Buying RIM would counter its current weakness in developing hardware for its mobile OS, Warren said.

M$ would have no intention of using the BB OS for anything. They would slap their own crap OS on RIM hardware and expect everyone to roll their eyes over the great masterpiece they had created.
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This statement in the article says it all:

Buying RIM would counter its current weakness in developing hardware for its mobile OS, Warren said.

M$ would have no intention of using the BB OS for anything. They would slap their own crap OS on RIM hardware and expect everyone to roll their eyes over the great masterpiece they had created.
My favourite line was:

RIM would gain Microsoft's brand power

ROFL, as if that is going to help them!
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Ms is moving to cell phones and remote data if even they do buy a part of rim bb' will still not run a win mobile os. Don't see what the big deal rim even after purchase would still do what they do. Make a corprate use product. Ms might port out a more userfrindy version but it still be rim doing it.
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It's more alarming than that though wabbit.

As a Domino BES admin, I have always appreciated RIM's neutrality across messaging systems. No way would MS-RIM develop BES for Domino/GWise the same as for Exchange, they would just use it as another way to try and force organisations to migrate to Exchange.
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It's more alarming than that though wabbit.

As a Domino BES admin, I have always appreciated RIM's neutrality across messaging systems. No way would MS-RIM develop BES for Domino/GWise the same as for Exchange, they would just use it as another way to try and force organisations to migrate to Exchange.
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As an organization, we are constantly running into Microsoft purchasing technology companies to get into the Enterprise space. On every occasion, they have used that acquisition to further penetrate our organization and ultimately develop their products to more effectively compliment their sister products. If you use anything other that Microsoft products, you WILL lost functionality if this purchase were to happen.
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i really really really really hope that this isn't true. i absolutely LOATHE ms, and do not use any of their products and don't buy them, but i LOVE my pearl.
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I will lead a crusade that shall smite M$ from the face of the planet should this ever come to pass.
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