[slance66]

Well in a company of 31,000, getting a BES admin (even finding out who it is) to do anything is a challenge. So I borrowed a colleagues T-Mobile SIM and it worked like a charm. So here's what I don't understand. I used the same website with both carriers, so the service book is there, but Cingular is apparently blocking it? Why on earth would they do that?

[Dennie S]

Don't know if the makes sense or not but... if all that is missing to get Y-Msgr working (in my case with Cingular on an 8700) is the Service Book... What if I just provide the Server Book (the .ipd file) to my BES administrator and have it 'pushed' to my handheld?? Would something like this work??
(Just trying to see if there might be another/easier way to do it.)
Thanks... Dennie

[Spencer_CDS]

Originally Posted by slance66

Well in a company of 31,000, getting a BES admin (even finding out who it is) to do anything is a challenge. So I borrowed a colleagues T-Mobile SIM and it worked like a charm. So here's what I don't understand. I used the same website with both carriers, so the service book is there, but Cingular is apparently blocking it? Why on earth would they do that?

To be absolutely honest, I have no idea why we're blocking the Y!M service book. I think it has something to be with the folks on the back end who, in negotiation with RIM, have the say on which services are provisioned and which services are not. Your guess is as good as mine.

[Spencer_CDS]

Originally Posted by Dennie S

Don't know if the makes sense or not but... if all that is missing to get Y-Msgr working (in my case with Cingular on an 8700) is the Service Book... What if I just provide the Server Book (the .ipd file) to my BES administrator and have it 'pushed' to my handheld?? Would something like this work??
(Just trying to see if there might be another/easier way to do it.)
Thanks... Dennie

I don't know a /great/ deal of BES functionality; something tells me, though, that the only way it's going to work is if you manually restore the service book to the device via Desktop Manager. It may be worthwhile to try doing a selective backup of everything on your handset except for service books, then turn off the radio, do a handheld wipe (Settings > Options > Security > General Settings, then click the trackwheel and select "Wipe Handheld"), then restore the Y!M service book, and load the backup of everything else and simply have everything pushed back out by your BES admin once more.

[zoshy2002]

Spence your the man thank you very much worked the first time around on a 7130c was searching for a soloution for a while.

Thanx

[Spencer_CDS]

Originally Posted by zoshy2002

Spence your the man thank you very much worked the first time around on a 7130c was searching for a soloution for a while.

Thanx

No problem, Zosh. Glad I could be of service. ^_^

[Spencer_CDS]

Folks, as for the users who have been asking me if this trick will work with the MMS service books, the answer, unfortunately, is no. Sadly, the MMS service books do not get taken in the Backup/Restore operation, and will not even work with the SIM card trick. The way it is, is that according to the provisioning on the back-end as per your given service provider, it is decided (for example, by Cingular or T-Mobile) which devices (by PIN/IMEI/Model #) are enabled for certain services. Currently, Cingular does not provision for Yahoo! Messenger, and disallows provisioning (deletes the MMS service books when registering with the wireless data network) on ANY BlackBerry handset other than the 7130c and the Pearl (I believe).

So, I don't know how to make it work, unfortunately; seems like it just may be luck as per which handset will be provisioned. =\

[infernox]

Originally Posted by Spencer_CDS

Ah! No worries, my friend. You need to restore the Y!M service book to your handset first, then "Register Now" via the HRT; after that, you can either have the BES admin resend the Desktop service books, or manually generate an encryption key via the Desktop Manager Redirector Settings icon.

I have a follow up question since I am in the same boat. I backed up everything on my BB to get ready for this. Loaded the Y!M as instructed and it worked like a charm. The issue is that I am on BES and BIS and have lots of third party apps that I want to restore. When I restore it, the service book for Y!M was gone and I am back to square one again.

Any suggestions?

[infernox]

OK I just took the leap and it works. Way too cool. Now there's a slight problem, my Password Keeper and AutoText content is gone and now empty. I have tons of information in there that would take quite a bit of time.

I still have the Backup file but is there a way I can just select a certain file(s) from my Backup to restore. I don't want to do the complete Restore or otherwise I would lose the Y!M Service Book.

[BBChristopher]

Spencer, again, YOU ROCK!

Thanks for all the work you have done on these issues.
I just got a Pearl, and used the switch device feature of DM 4.2....

Worked perfect. Didn't have to do anything else. Y!M showed up, and worked immediately.

Just thought I would mention it in case anyone else was trying to get it to work.

[infernox]

Originally Posted by infernox

OK I just took the leap and it works. Way too cool. Now there's a slight problem, my Password Keeper and AutoText content is gone and now empty. I have tons of information in there that would take quite a bit of time.

I still have the Backup file but is there a way I can just select a certain file(s) from my Backup to restore. I don't want to do the complete Restore or otherwise I would lose the Y!M Service Book.

Well, everything works now. This is the shiznit! Big thanks, Spencer!

[Spencer_CDS]

Originally Posted by BBChristopher

Spencer, again, YOU ROCK!

Thanks for all the work you have done on these issues.
I just got a Pearl, and used the switch device feature of DM 4.2....

Worked perfect. Didn't have to do anything else. Y!M showed up, and worked immediately.

Just thought I would mention it in case anyone else was trying to get it to work.

Glad I was able to provide some assistance. =) Have fun!

[Spencer_CDS]

Originally Posted by infernox

Well, everything works now. This is the shiznit! Big thanks, Spencer!

Glad to hear, bro. Enjoy. ^_^

[Spencer_CDS]

*Update* - I have found that this method works phenominally, as well, with OS 4.2 for the 8700 series as well. ^_^

[brghtbear]

Thank you for posting this. I am glad to have yahoo messenger working on my blackberry.

[Spencer_CDS]

Originally Posted by brghtbear

Thank you for posting this. I am glad to have yahoo messenger working on my blackberry.

I'm glad ya do, too, Bear. =) Hope you get plenty of use out of it!

[gtrattner]

I just tried to get the backup file(s) from the original post but I got an error when trying to download the files. It seems like there are no longer available. Can someone help me optain the backup file for 4.1 with the YM service book?

Thanks.

[Spencer_CDS]

Originally Posted by gtrattner

I just tried to get the backup file(s) from the original post but I got an error when trying to download the files. It seems like there are no longer available. Can someone help me optain the backup file for 4.1 with the YM service book?

Thanks.

Argh. I have to pay for Boomspeed now?!

Ugh. Vultures. ¬.¬

All right. I'm going to go ahead and re-subscribe, and possibly find somewhere else that I can host these for free. I don't find myself particularly enamored with the idea of paying $6 every month to be able to download either or both of two files whose combined filesize is less than 1KB.

Just finished the transaction; files should be available again in a few hours, though may take anywhere between up to 24 and 72 hours. Be patient. =)

[Spencer_CDS]

Originally Posted by Spencer_CDS

Argh. I have to pay for Boomspeed now?!

Ugh. Vultures. ¬.¬

All right. I'm going to go ahead and re-subscribe, and possibly find somewhere else that I can host these for free. I don't find myself particularly enamored with the idea of paying $6 every month to be able to download either or both of two files whose combined filesize is less than 1KB.

Just finished the transaction; files should be available again in a few hours, though may take anywhere between up to 24 and 72 hours. Be patient. =)

Update: I have just gone ahead and checked the Boomspeed account, and it's up and running again. Enjoy. =)

[gnrxx]

Quick newbie question. It's even almost on topic ;^)

When I use Y!M on my 8700, does the traffic actually go through my corporate network via BES?

No, I'm not worried about them seeing the content (it would bore them to tears). I'd rather know it just isn't going through the corporate network so I don't have to hear some admin whine about misuse of corp resources.

I don't use the BES browser for just this reason. The IP address resolves to a corporate domain. I use the cingular or internet browsers which resolve to att.com and blackberry.net respectively.

Thanks