[Seattle18]

Have you gotten involved here?

[miss_melissa]

I have just signed the petition ... thanks for the link.

[Lex Luthor]

Originally Posted by miss_melissa

My deepest apologies if this sounds like a super dumb question, but i'm very new to the whole bb thing ...

i've installed the new OS with the zen theme successfully ...

... but my question is ... if i do not have the data plan on my bb, will i still be able to change the zen background to something else other than the pics that come already installed in the pictures folder??? cause u guys have posted some great backgrounds, and if i could i'd like to change the background with the zen theme ... but ... unfortunately no data plan.

... help. please?

With no data plans you can always use the backgrounds that come pre loaded on the 8700r. If you have no data plan right now sign up for the $40 data pack to add on to your existing voice package. You'll get 3mo true unlimited data.

[miss_melissa]

kewl .. thanks! ... i was thinking of doing that ... and then cancelling after my 3 months are up ... but i wasn't too sure if i could do that.

[jbibbs]

Ok, normally I don't have problems with this sorta stuff. But I cannot get my device to run the Zen theme. I've followed the directions exactly now 7 or 8 times and it still just shows my normal themes. Any recommendations??

[Seattle18]

Is there a long - 20+ minutes - period of loading onto your BB during the Desktop Manager phase?

[jbibbs]

Wirelessly posted (RIM Blackberry 7290: Mozilla/2.0 (compatible; MSIE 3.02; Windows CE; PPC; 240x320) BlackBerry8700/4.1.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/100)

No there is no 20 minute wait for it to load anything on the desktop manager. I've tried deleting it and reinstalling it a few times but it just won't work.

[Seattle18]

Then you are missing a step. If you do EXACTLY what is in the instructions, there will be a long delay period in that stage, that's the OS loading onto your BB. Be sure you are deleting the vendor.alx file and that you are installing and downloading into the right places. Print the steps out and go thru meticulously...

[jbibbs]

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I don't have to delete and redownload the bharti program I downloaded do I? This is the only step I did out of turn b/c I started the download and then went to lunch at work. Then I came back and tried to do the upgrade. Thanks for the help. I'll try again.

[jbibbs]

I just tried again but still no luck. I guess I'm not supposed to have Zen on my 8700.

[stealthx32]

If you have the 8700g, you don't need to load the OS since the Bharti is the same version as the one on your phone already. Just download the OS from T-Mobile, and edit the BlackBerry.alx file. Once you do the edit, open the Desktop Manager, and it should tell you it needs to update the core files.

[jbibbs]

Well after uninstalling and reinstalling a few times it's finally doing a step it never did before during the desktop manager phase and it is taking a while so it looks like i've got it figured out. Thanks Guys!!

[Hyper7PCR]

Why is "Download the Bharti (India) 4.1 software here" I don't see any, huh.

[jibi]

Originally Posted by Hyper7PCR

Why is "Download the Bharti (India) 4.1 software here" I don't see any, huh.

hyper, for the sake of christ, please just read. there are newer threads with updated information for new OS's with the same methodology of installation. no offense, but a toddler could follow these instructions and get it right.

[Hyper7PCR]

I am now on "8. Open Desktop Manager and upgrade when prompted (will take 20 or more minutes usually)". Also my file is open Extrent to all "
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Research In Motion\Shared\Loader Files\8700-v4.1.0.284_P2.0.0.120 " My BB connect to desktop manager and wait 20 minutes and no show. I noticed that my ApplicLoader icon is not there on my deaktop manager. Is it right? Should I wait for 20 minutes or more?

Before I restore my computer for clean and refresh.

[Seattle18]

UPDATE: There is a newer version of OS available now, from Telstra (Australian, I think). These instructions have been updated to provide the Telstra OS, and no longer the Bharti. The Telstra version has the same themes, including Zen. Go to the first post in this thread to get Telstra. Enjoy!

[bestinthebusiness]

I followed the instructions and everything worked perfectly. Thanks Seattle18. The new theme is really cool. Too bad I'm going to have to redo this whole process when I get my replacement Blackberry from Cingular (I complained about the dust problem and their shipping me a new 8700).

[RichardSwe]

I have a newbie's question about installing the Telstra OS. It's about the step: "If you're on BES, then reactivate through Enterprise Activation."

I work in a very large corporation and have a very distant relationship with our IT tech support. (In fact, it's outsourced to another country time zones away.) I've gathered that our IT dept is running BES 3.x. (Newbie - I'm understanding this is the BB Enterprise Server software on the IT Dept's servers.)

My question is -- if I go through with the updated OS installation, is the "enterprise activation" step above something I can do *entirely on my end*, or do I need to get our IT Dept to take action? I ask because they basically do not support non-standard actions, like updating the BB OS. If I ask they may either be confused or may say "what were you thinking???".

Peripheral observation, maybe related to how easy it is to reactivate: I've seen reference to an email address and password in an activation email. I know that I do not have any email from our IT dept with any activation information.

So, if I can do this all by myself, I'll proceed. If I need to interact with our IT Dept, I may hesitate and not do it.

[KonTiki]

Originally Posted by RichardSwe

I have a newbie's question about installing the Telstra OS. It's about the step: "If you're on BES, then reactivate through Enterprise Activation."

I work in a very large corporation and have a very distant relationship with our IT tech support. (In fact, it's outsourced to another country time zones away.) I've gathered that our IT dept is running BES 3.x. (Newbie - I'm understanding this is the BB Enterprise Server software on the IT Dept's servers.)

My question is -- if I go through with the updated OS installation, is the "enterprise activation" step above something I can do *entirely on my end*, or do I need to get our IT Dept to take action? I ask because they basically do not support non-standard actions, like updating the BB OS. If I ask they may either be confused or may say "what were you thinking???".

Peripheral observation, maybe related to how easy it is to reactivate: I've seen reference to an email address and password in an activation email. I know that I do not have any email from our IT dept with any activation information.

So, if I can do this all by myself, I'll proceed. If I need to interact with our IT Dept, I may hesitate and not do it.

You need a new password sent to you to reactivate, without it you cannot do it alone.

[Blanchard]

Thank Seattle18.

Thank jibi for the Telstra version