[AxelE]

It is the time in milliseconds the device needs to calculate all the stuff every second. So 36 to 44 means around 3.6 to 4.4 % CPU usage (more or less). I don't think that this can be the reason for draining the battery so fast. Could you please try to "Toggle graphic" from the menu, this switching of the graphical output. The cycle elapsed should drop down significantly ...

But never the less. This CPU load cannot be responsible to drain the battery. There must be another factor of the program consuming as much power.

May be there are other user with 8820 around there helping to identify this issue??

Originally Posted by nyubi

just finished re-installed minimoni on 8820 again, and here are the value, it's variable range between 36 - 44, so it's over 20 as you mention before.

by the way can you tell me what is cycle elapsed time ?

[nyubi]

i've just re-installed on 2 8820
lets see it overnight hope it's just because i'm using the older minimoni on them last time (v0.30.0) now using 0.30.4.. (last time i use v0.30.4 only on the 8300)

but i think it's not because other program, because after i remove minimoni, my battery life went normal again, when i use minimoni battery life decreased by (around) 15% in 4 hours, whitout minimoni it still showed full capacity

[nyubi]

btw axel, i pm'ed you about application sign .. i think it better pm'ed you than put it here

[AxelE]

I fear it will not change as the differences between the two versions are small. At least I can see no reason, why it should be different now

The only thing that I can imagine is the firmware release having some of the classes I use implemented in a different way.

May be you can tell me what else is installed on these devices, as it might be a coincident / interference with another app...

Originally Posted by nyubi

i've just re-installed on 2 8820
lets see it overnight hope it's just because i'm using the older minimoni on them last time (v0.30.0) now using 0.30.4.. (last time i use v0.30.4 only on the 8300)

but i think it's not because other program, because after i remove minimoni, my battery life went normal again, when i use minimoni battery life decreased by (around) 15% in 4 hours, whitout minimoni it still showed full capacity

[nyubi]

okay i will report back to you after the test..

[AxelE]

Nyubi,

any news on that topic?

Originally Posted by nyubi

okay i will report back to you after the test..

[AxelE]

Updated to 0.31.3. I edited my first post in the thread to reflect the changes.

[nyubi]

axel,

sorry back late to you, tested it for two days, now my 8820 seem prety normal to me, it last a day, maybe just because I couldn't reproduce the similar data traffic as before (ym + bb msgr+ jt + browsing), so I concur that must be because of my using behaviour non related to minimoni.
and about autostart on restart device on have you implement it ?

[AxelE]

Ok, that sounds fine. Though it might be a combination of several events. If you produce heavy traffic, the app has to calculate more... But of course you use the radio all the time which does consume power as well.

For the autostart it's just a subject of test with signed code. But I have to prepare that... I saw that introducing the power up/off functions I need to take care now for one particular thing if I allow autostart.

Originally Posted by nyubi

axel,

sorry back late to you, tested it for two days, now my 8820 seem prety normal to me, it last a day, maybe just because I couldn't reproduce the similar data traffic as before (ym + bb msgr+ jt + browsing), so I concur that must be because of my using behaviour non related to minimoni.
and about autostart on restart device on have you implement it ?

[Klotar]

I've been playing with MiniMoni for several days now, and find it to be a great app. I'm not on unlimited data, so I do have to watch my usage.

I have found the battery consumption to be minimal (my greatest fear) and have otherwise had no errors.

Two of my three wish-list items have already been mentioned; the first being auto-start on bootup, and the second being the ability to set the start cycle date. The third, which I didn't see mentioned but I might have missed it, is that it would remember the settings for the graphic toggle.

Although it may very well be that graphics on may consume no more cpu cycles or consume more battery power than graphics off, I would guess that graphics off would be more conservative. Anyways, the app always starts in graphics on mode so I wonder if this is a feature which might be added later?

[AxelE]

Hello,

for you wishes...

1. Autostart is just a question of signing, I believe.

2. The cycle date setting is ready on my device and will be released soon.

3. If I do stop the graphic and stop the program afterwards it is still stopped if I do restart. What version are you using? And under which circumstances that happens?

Axel

Originally Posted by Klotar

I've been playing with MiniMoni for several days now, and find it to be a great app. I'm not on unlimited data, so I do have to watch my usage.

I have found the battery consumption to be minimal (my greatest fear) and have otherwise had no errors.

Two of my three wish-list items have already been mentioned; the first being auto-start on bootup, and the second being the ability to set the start cycle date. The third, which I didn't see mentioned but I might have missed it, is that it would remember the settings for the graphic toggle.

Although it may very well be that graphics on may consume no more cpu cycles or consume more battery power than graphics off, I would guess that graphics off would be more conservative. Anyways, the app always starts in graphics on mode so I wonder if this is a feature which might be added later?

[Klotar]

Originally Posted by AxelE

3. If I do stop the graphic and stop the program afterwards it is still stopped if I do restart. What version are you using? And under which circumstances that happens?
Axel

I am running 0.31.3. But perhaps I wasn't too clear. If I escape or close (I don't think I'm really closing it though) the app, when I click on it, it will still be with graphics stopped, but if I reboot the phone, and then restart the app, then it will be with graphics on. So yes it does retain the settings and I don't have to constantly toggle it off (which I guess is the way I made it sound, sorry!) but when I restart the phone, then I do have to turn graphics off after starting MiniMoni.

It does seem to remember my preferences (it remembers that I want it in kilobytes and not bytes, for example) even on reboot, so I thought it odd that it didn't remember I liked graphics off. But I see now that it really isn't a setting in Preferences (yet).

[rivviepop]

Hi Axel - I have an idea (feature request) which is big but would be really, really cool.

It would be neat if MiniMoni Pro could include an actual packet capture of Traffic Watch and save the capture session to the SD card in Wireshark compatible format. Then we (the user) could get the packet capture off our SD card and load into Wireshark to look at network traffic.

Here is the wiki page of capture formats they support:
http://wiki.wireshark.org/FileFormatReference

...and the libpcap file format reference:
http://wiki.wireshark.org/Development/LibpcapFileFormat

...the implementation in Java:
http://netresearch.ics.uci.edu/kfuji...doc/index.html

I do realize this is a lot of work to code, but how cool. Do you think the RIM APIs could support this (I'm guessing you need signed code)?

[AxelE]

Do you close MiniMoni with the menu function "Close" before you reboot? He should ask you if you really want to close. If not goto the preferences end check if there is a cross on "Never terminate". If you delete this cross he should ask you if you want to close on closing. Doing that he writes the preferences including if the graphic was currently suspended. If you just boot I have no chance to write that to the preferences.

Axel

Originally Posted by Klotar

I am running 0.31.3. But perhaps I wasn't too clear. If I escape or close (I don't think I'm really closing it though) the app, when I click on it, it will still be with graphics stopped, but if I reboot the phone, and then restart the app, then it will be with graphics on. So yes it does retain the settings and I don't have to constantly toggle it off (which I guess is the way I made it sound, sorry!) but when I restart the phone, then I do have to turn graphics off after starting MiniMoni.

It does seem to remember my preferences (it remembers that I want it in kilobytes and not bytes, for example) even on reboot, so I thought it odd that it didn't remember I liked graphics off. But I see now that it really isn't a setting in Preferences (yet).

[AxelE]

It really sound like a cool idea. But too cool to be true

I'll have a look on the sources later. But what I already saw is some c code as well what might the biggest issue to implement ...

Originally Posted by rivviepop

Hi Axel - I have an idea (feature request) which is big but would be really, really cool.

It would be neat if MiniMoni Pro could include an actual packet capture of Traffic Watch and save the capture session to the SD card in Wireshark compatible format. Then we (the user) could get the packet capture off our SD card and load into Wireshark to look at network traffic.

Here is the wiki page of capture formats they support:
FileFormatReference - The Wireshark Wiki

...and the libpcap file format reference:
Development/LibpcapFileFormat - The Wireshark Wiki

...the implementation in Java:
Jpcap - a Java library for capturing and sending network packets

I do realize this is a lot of work to code, but how cool. Do you think the RIM APIs could support this (I'm guessing you need signed code)?

[Klotar]

Originally Posted by AxelE

Do you close MiniMoni with the menu function "Close" before you reboot? He should ask you if you really want to close. If not goto the preferences end check if there is a cross on "Never terminate". If you delete this cross he should ask you if you want to close on closing. Doing that he writes the preferences including if the graphic was currently suspended. If you just boot I have no chance to write that to the preferences.

Axel

Ahhhh... I see. Yep, it works just as you said. I think that since I had it set to never terminate from the beginning, I could never close it, and so I could never really save it.

That's it for me, Imma happy. :D

[AxelE]

Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry8100/4.2.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/111)

Great having clarified that. In fact if one pulls the battery I suppose no application has a chance to save

[mrking]

Originally Posted by AxelE

Hello,

for you wishes...

2. The cycle date setting is ready on my device and will be released soon.

Axel

oo, looking forward to that one!


oh, and MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!

[AxelE]

I put the new version on my website and will edit my first post to reflect all changes. Hope you enjoy it as a gift for new year

AxelE

[AxelE]

If somebody experiences problems with still getting the old version OTA please try to use this link:

Alternate OTA link

AxelE