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Old 03-17-2006, 09:50 PM   #1
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I searched on this and see that this does seem to be the case - my question for folks and BES Admins is - isn't this a possible secutiry issue? I found this looking at my folder list tonight and it has calls I made going back over a year! Every call I made and missed are stored on the server? Why is this? Its not really a huge deal, but if I leave the company, they have all numbers i have called for the past few years? Anyone else find this to be odd?

I have read folks say to delete this log prior to upgrading the OS as it greatly reduces the time to re-activate on the BES - I can imagine now. But if I follow directions to delete them from my handheld, will that sync with the BES and delete them from there too?
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I think you might have better luck with questions on the BES by posting inthe BES Admins Corner Forum. And what is kept on the server may be due to the new Laws enacted after the Enron and other scandals. Not so much as a security issue for the company but god help the employee who screws up and uses a company BB to break the law or company policy.


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hmm. they aren't stored, per se. they may be backed up wirelessly. when you wipe a handheld, one of the things you'll lose w/o a backup is the phone logs. some people want these on their handheld. i'm not sure if they're backed up or not, to be honest though.

with 4.1, they have introduced auditing/synchronization of the phone call logs database on the handheld to the BES server. every call, missed, made or received, is stored in a comma-separated value file on the server. this is turned on by default through policy.

depending on your definition of 'security risk', it might be or it might not be. one job of the company is to protect their investments, and this possibly might include playing 'big brother' to their users. other reasons for this would be to comply with various laws, such as Sarbanes-Oxley. unfortunately, in the world of SEC violations, corporate scandals, etc., auditing/tracking of various corporate resources was mandated by the government.

with that said, if you are simply looking at folders on your handheld, they are not stored on the BES, most likely (some things are, though).
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Glad this was posted. I let my dad (who just got issued a 7290 by the gov't) know about this so he is careful to use his personal phone for personal calls.
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The phone call logs are backed up because you have the ability to add notes to the calls. Unfortunatlly, the BES admins can not currently choose NOT to backup just this item. If you don't want that much backed up, view the Phone Call Log folder on your Blackberry and Delete Prior.
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can you look at the logs on the bes?
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On BES 4.1, yes - it can be configured to store Phone Call Logs, SMS messages and PIN messages in a CSV-formatted log file. For 4.0, I believe the backup data is stored in plain-text on the SQL database, if I remember correctly.
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remember that big brother is always watching, also someone alway sees the bill which has the #'s listed as well
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