[donald1x]

Sorry, all, I haven't posted sooner as I was verifying my claim.

Unfortunately, I have to report a bad news and confirm that you really can't have mail service (BIS/BES) without at least a basic dataplan on your GSM card.

What I post previously is correct. You can completely switch off the GSM connection and receive email via WIFI. However, The GSM card in the phone must at least connect ONCE with a network and verified it has a data plan for this to work.

I tried this scenario with two separate GSM SIM card, one with data plan, and one without.

- Start with a blackberry with a data plan, that synchronize properly.
- turn off Mobile Network.
- Shutdown blackberry.
- Insert SIM with (or without) dataplan
- turn on blackberry
- synch with only WIFI - failed
- turn on Mobile Network.
- turn off Mobile Network
- Synch with only Wifi
+ If the SIM card has dataplan:
- Service Status for BIS & BES switch to WIFI
- Email still works
+ if the SIM card has NO dataplan
- Service Status for BIS & BES remains "not coneected"
- Email refuse to work.

I think the issue is that the device REFUSE to switch the Service Status of the BIS and BES connection to WIFI unless it detected a data plan via its Mobile Connection. Once it does that, it will let you switch to WIFI forevermore, until you shutdown the phone.

Unfortunately, switching GSM card requires shutting down the phone.

So... Sorry everyone.

Donald

[John Clark]

That's correct. No BB data plan, no email. No if's, and's, or but's about it.

[avelasqu]

John Clark,

I have heard of some people getting the data plan and then removing it and still getting Push Email. Is this a fluke? I am assuming that once you remove a data plan, on the carrier end, its removed immediately. But takes Blackberry 7-10 business days to update the information on their end. I have ready however, a few users "falling through the cracks" and still getting their push email. Hmm....

[John Clark]

It's a fluke. It's also dishonest. Do what you like, though.

[stufried]

If you've got an Exchange server, look at Astrasync. It installs an activesuyync compatible client on a Blackberry and lets you get push e-mail that way. Note your battery life will go down because Activesync's approach for implementing "push" mail requires there to be a "heart beat" connection maintained to the Activesync server. In other words, it is pull/push email.