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09-01-2004, 01:47 AM
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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7510 - AWESOME speakerphone, excellent bb reception, not a fan of the Nextel phone part.
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09-01-2004, 11:28 AM
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: East Coast
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I'm using a 7230 from T-Mobile. My previous Blackberry was a 957, which I started using back in 2000.
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09-01-2004, 11:30 AM
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#43
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Chicago
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Carrier: ATT
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I am also using a 7230 from T-Mobile. My previous Blackberry was also a 957, which I also started using back in 2000. I feel like I'm looking in the mirror :D
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09-01-2004, 12:01 PM
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Join Date: Aug 2004
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7510....When you factor in the text messaging through e-mail...I'd say im doing 100 e-mails in and out a day.
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09-01-2004, 12:06 PM
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
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I switched to the 7230 only this year because I wasn't sure about GPRS coverage compared with Mobitex coverage. I recently had my 957 with EarthLink. When they hiked the monthly fee from $40 to $50, I knew it was time to make the move.
Kirson, there was that missing twin that Mom keep pestering me about. I wonder if... :o
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09-01-2004, 12:50 PM
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Retired BBF Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
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Carrier: Rogers
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I wanted to jump beyond my 950 last year because GPRS was starting to have much better coverage in Ontario. But what kept me was the lack of instant messaging and telnet/SSH. Even had a Blackberry 5810 collecting dust for 12 months before I resold it. With the advent of BES Hosting services, the problem was solved (at an extra monthly fee I was more than willing to pay) and an opportunity to buy a used 7280 for cheap, I finally jumped on the bandwagon to the Modern BlackBerry.
GPRS has much better coverage than Mobitex now in most areas of North America. There are some exceptions. In Ontario, there's no contest -- you can usually get a bit of reception in rural areas now almost everywhere in southern Ontario, the 401, the 416, the railroads between cities, etc, pretty much the entire Hamilton-Quebec City corridor.
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09-01-2004, 01:12 PM
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#47
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
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Location: Chicago
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Originally Posted by DavidE
Kirson, there was that missing twin that Mom keep pestering me about. I wonder if... :o
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LOL
I'm still not sure that coverage is as good as it was on Mobitex -- but I don't travel as much anymore. With Mobitex I would coverage during around 25% of flights, as well.
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09-01-2004, 02:07 PM
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Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
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GSM signals have a harder time reaching airplanes than Mobitex. Yes, it was easier to send messages from a Mobitex Blackberry on a flying airplanes (Yes, I tried). Cellphone signals aren't good during high-speed motion, and your signal often reaches multiple celltowers using the same frequency rather than overlapping frequencies, confusing the towers, and your reception bar goes down to 0 or nearly 0. But the real story is different from the ground.
With my 7280, I have travelled to Vancouver, SaltSpring, Chicago, Toronto, Niagara Falls, Quebec City, Montreal, Amelia in Ohio, Cincinnati, Cannoball Beach in Oregon, Ottercrest Resort in Oregon. There's no contest. GSM blows away Mobitex on the ground, without a shadow of doubt! (In 99% of cases I have experienced, at least in Canada.)
GSM: Just make sure you have the new 850 Mhz GSM frequency (5 bars instead of 1 bar inside Toronto Union station, and 2 bars instead of 0 bars in 2-level-underground parking garages).
Nonstop reception on whole stretch of 401
Nonstop reception on railroad ride from Ottawa to Niagra Falls
Nonstop reception on railroad ride from Ottawa to Quebec City
Nonstop reception on whole stretch of 416
Southern Ontario is like one gigantic WiFi hotspot
That's over 1.5 thousand kilometers of travel (over 1000 miles). Take that, Mobitex! :D
But make sure you do have 850Mhz, if you are on Rogers Canada. That means, 6280, 7280, 7780, or the 7290, rather than the other Blackberries. The 850 Mhz signal penetrates buildings just as good as Mobitex at least, whereas you used to get better signal on a 957 than a 6210 in some cases where the same tower had both Mobitex and GSM on it.
When I was in Chicago, most of the time my Blackberry was hooked to AT&T Wireless, just so you know. I do not know how good their GSM infrastructure is compared to the GSM infrastructure in southern Ontario. But I would be surprised if it was worse than Mobitex. It is true GSM is better in Canada than USA, but lately the GSM coverage is getting much better and exceeds Mobitex in cases.
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09-02-2004, 12:48 AM
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I just remembered Chicago has excellent Mobitex coverage -- maybe that's what you're noticing. (It's possible they don't have an 850 Mhz GSM network yet? -- In Canada, we're gradually turning off old analog cellular and TDMA channels to make way for 850 Mhz GSM)
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09-02-2004, 08:29 AM
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I got a 7510 as an upgrade from a 6750 and a Motorola i90. So, i went from a PTT phone and a CDMA BB, to a converged device.
The 7510 takes a bit of getting used to as a replacement for my iden phone. However, once accustomed to its quirks, the 7510 outperforms the i90 in terms of reception, speakerphone volume and clarity, and overall integation.
The 7510 is well woth the extra cost of the 6750 series, and I prefer the improved speeds over CDMA devices. It has been stated many times...the addition of speakerphone and PTT has added steroids to the 7510!
Although national coverage with iden in Canada is not as complete as CDMA, the areas described by Mark are adequately covered thru iden. Additionally, the tcp/ip stack allows non-bes MDS, a feature many individuals love.
Note- TELUS Mobility is offering to trade virtually any RIM device for a brand new 7510 for $149, with 3 year service agreement. And for $50, enjoy unlimited email and browsing.
This is not meant to sound like advertising, however this is an extraordinary offer.
Scott
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09-02-2004, 02:33 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Kitchener-Waterloo, On, Canada
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Originally Posted by smay
I got a 7510 as an upgrade from a 6750 and a Motorola i90. So, i went from a PTT phone and a CDMA BB, to a converged device.
The 7510 takes a bit of getting used to as a replacement for my iden phone. However, once accustomed to its quirks, the 7510 outperforms the i90 in terms of reception, speakerphone volume and clarity, and overall integation.
The 7510 is well woth the extra cost of the 6750 series, and I prefer the improved speeds over CDMA devices. It has been stated many times...the addition of speakerphone and PTT has added steroids to the 7510!
Although national coverage with iden in Canada is not as complete as CDMA, the areas described by Mark are adequately covered thru iden. Additionally, the tcp/ip stack allows non-bes MDS, a feature many individuals love.
Note- TELUS Mobility is offering to trade virtually any RIM device for a brand new 7510 for $149, with 3 year service agreement. And for $50, enjoy unlimited email and browsing.
This is not meant to sound like advertising, however this is an extraordinary offer.
Scott
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Where abouts is this offer?
I would love to take Telus up on it.
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09-02-2004, 04:34 PM
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Location: Toronto, Canada
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I have a 7780, and I'm enjoying it very much.
Rob Yale
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09-07-2004, 04:34 PM
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7280 here on ATTWS - my first unit. I've been watching them since they came out but couldnt' justify it. Once I started seeing them on the wireless carriers I knew my time without one was short.
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09-08-2004, 02:28 AM
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Location: USA
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Hello all, i'm new in this board, i own a 7230 (T-mobile).
I noticed someone commenting of a newer blackberry coming out later this year (which will have bluetooth,more memory, and the ability to connect to a laptop (use as a modem?),
Anyhow, my question is, if this thing is coming out so soon (i still have 14 days to return this blackberry which i paid 300 dollars for, wouldn't it be wise to just return it, and get a conventional phone instead? Maybe just wait for that nicer blackberry? I'm just thinking if that one is going to be that much better, i wouldn't mind waiting a bit longer, that way i'll get my money's worth for sure.
What do you all think stick with the 7230, or return it and wait for the newer blackberry?....
Btw i'm not using the enterprise server, just the web client....
I would really appreciate anyone's opinion on this matter, as i am new to this. thanks so much
jorge.
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09-08-2004, 08:24 AM
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Will you use the new technologies in the new unit or would it just be a "comfort" thing knowing you got the latest and greatest. I'm not slamming you, I fought the same thing since I am a gadget-geek and want the latest and greatest, but I figured that I'd use my 7280 now. I really liked the 7780 but it is online only for ATTWS. With Hurricane Frances coming I figured that an online order may meet with delays with shipping for fulfillment if ATTWS had any of its infrastructure in affected areas, so I grabbed a 7280 from the local store. I am curitous about the 7780 and the 7290 but I know that the 7280 will do me well and the extra technologies really wouldn't be useful for me.
I dont' use my BB as a phone, I use a Sony Ericsson T637 for that - I split my voice and data duties - i am not a huge fan of using a single device, dont' ask me why.
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09-08-2004, 08:52 AM
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#56
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Location: USA
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I hear what you're saying...the bluetooth being more of a creature comfort rather than a necessity is a valid point. and all the upgrades get put forth accross the board. good point indeed.
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09-10-2004, 03:10 AM
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#57
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Hehe, after thinking about it, i took the bb back anyway, seeing that the 7100t is coming out and it's 100 bones cheaper!!!...I'll test the 7100t out, hopefully i made the right decision. :D
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09-10-2004, 07:00 AM
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#58
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Somewhere in the Great White North
Model: 8800r
Carrier: Robbers Wireless
Posts: 113
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Well,
I've had a 950 (still have it in original box), 957, 5810, 6210, 6710, 6750, 7280 and now 7780. Mind you I test and authorize BB use in my Org, so I get to see everything by my desk. :D
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09-12-2004, 08:05 PM
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#59
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Atlanta, GA
Model: 7290
Carrier: TMobile
Posts: 111
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I have a 7230 running 3.7 and on TMobile. Works great, love it.
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09-12-2004, 08:28 PM
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#60
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Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Brampton, Ontario
Model: 9700
OS: 5.0.0.351
Carrier: Rogers Wireless
Posts: 98
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Currently, it's the 7780 on Rogers. I have previously used the 7280 and 6280.
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