[ArgonNJ]

Originally Posted by suchislife801

Yeah, CDMA kicks ass. Gotta give'em a chance

[styxgroupi]

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Originally Posted by JSanders

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It HAS hit certain carriers already

Do you know which carriers have 4.5 for the 8330? Wonderin what I am gonna get when verizon takes over my alltel?? Thoughts?

[SteveO86]

I don't think any CDMA 4.5 has been released officially from any carrier. (including 8130, 8330, 8830)

[cryogenic]

I saw a 4.5 release for the 8330 the other day. Nothing for the 8130 yet, though. :(

[Impaler80s]

Originally Posted by michael12005

The new Apple i phone will not sell as well as predicted for 2 reasons:

1) You still cannot change your own battery and

2) AT & T

Oops...a bit off on this prediction.

[styxgroupi]

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Originally Posted by cryogenic

I saw a 4.5 release for the 8330 the other day. Nothing for the 8130 yet, though. :(

Offical release?? If so which carrier? Not interested in beta only 4.5 for 8330 curve CDMA...

[CarBob]

Originally Posted by styxgroupi

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Offical release?? If so which carrier? Not interested in beta only 4.5 for 8330 curve CDMA...

Would also like to know. Thanks.

"BlackBerry for Life"

- CB

[Trimix]

Originally Posted by Sith_Apprentice

RIM sells millions of devices every year. And on current pace they are adding nearly 10 million customers a year. These are not even just device sales, these are customers that are NEW customers to RIM. Currently they sit at 16million+ active customers. How many replacement devices how many upgrades are done in a given year on the BlackBerry? RIM is the number one PDA manufacturer worldwide and its not even close. Apple sits somewhere between third and fourth. RIM releases multiple devices per year. 8110/8120/8330/9000/9500/8900/8220 all will be out this year. Apple releases one phone per year. What exactly does RIM need to "quicken the pace"?

That's a good point. I think people also need to look at the audience who use these devices. There's a big difference between an iPhone user and a BlackBerry user. BB first and foremost came out for the business industry and they were very succesful at that.

One thing that Apple has done well is drumming up the hype. Yeah the iPhone is affordable for most everybody now than it was before, but remember what all the reviews and critics have told us to keep in mind. The price of the device is lower so more people can afford it, but the data plan is $10/month more. AT&T is not going to make money on the iPhone in sales volume. They'll make it up from the data plans they sell with the phones.

[dstrauss]

Originally Posted by michael12005

The new Apple i phone will not sell as well as predicted for 2 reasons:

1) You still cannot change your own battery and

2) AT & T

I can hear Don Adams..."Missed it by that much..."

(600,000 more than last time)

[BIOHazard87]

Originally Posted by dstrauss

1. How many people do you know that own two batteries, much less carry the spare battery wherever they go?

My brand new retail 8320 was actually missing its battery, in the box, had to buy a new one, that one has now died, so I've already had 2 incidences with the battery so far and have only had the phone about 2 month's. I too think the Iphone should have a removable battery, and upgradable flash ram.

Originally Posted by michael12005

The new Apple i phone will not sell as well as predicted for 2 reasons:

1) You still cannot change your own battery and

2) AT & T

I agreed with you on #1 above, but I hardly think you could put it has the #1 reason the iphone wont sell as well as predicted. #2 is correct though, it needs to be brought over to other carriers.

Originally Posted by MBW

I'm guessing - raw, Las Vegas-style guessing - that the approval will come mid-July

I live in Vegas and that is a pretty vegas-style guess :D