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03-27-2009, 06:20 PM
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Dacy,
I suspect that many of the people who are in favor of a woman's right to make this decision would also support your wish that adoption be an option selected far more often than it is.
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03-29-2009, 02:02 PM
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I believe abortion should be allowed in certain circumstances, but not necessarily just because they made a mistake. Our first pregnancy was not good. Baby was diagnosed through an amniocentesis with a rare chromosome disease that has a survival rate of 1% at 30 days after birth and 0% at one year. Do we have the baby, knowing he will die in our arms, or have the abortion at 4 months and save the heartache and suffering for us, and perhaps physical pain for the baby? Turns out for us, the decision was made for us as the baby died in utero at 5 months and was surgically removed. But, if the baby hadn't passed, would an abortion be the right thing? I think so.
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03-29-2009, 02:07 PM
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See, I disagree. IMO, you're playing God at that point. In your case God decided before you did but I just don't think that's our decision to make. Just my opinion.
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03-29-2009, 02:31 PM
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If the baby had been born what would the suffering level had been?
If the poor baby would have suffered immense pain for a year, then died, then I would probably agree with the abortion... To save the baby from suffering, not the parents...
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03-29-2009, 06:30 PM
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If the baby had been born what would the suffering level had been?
If the poor baby would have suffered immense pain for a year, then died, then I would probably agree with the abortion... To save the baby from suffering, not the parents...
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Pain level is really unknown since there have been so few to survive to 1 year. My point is that in this situation, I think it's reason enough to allow the parents the choice.
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03-30-2009, 07:12 AM
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See, I disagree. IMO, you're playing God at that point. In your case God decided before you did but I just don't think that's our decision to make. Just my opinion.
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Agreed.
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04-04-2009, 02:50 PM
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While I respect the opinions of others on this subject, my own personal opinion is that Abortion, or "Murder" as I like to call it, is wrong period, no matter what the situation is.
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Just like this story.
"ABORTION A 9-year-old girl who was carrying twins, and whose stepfather is suspected of raping her, underwent an abortion on Wednesday despite complaints from Brazilxxx8217;s Roman Catholic Church. The stepfather has been jailed since last week, the police said. Abortion is illegal in Brazil, the country with the most Roman Catholics, but judges can make exceptions if the motherxxx8217;s life is in danger or the fetus has no chance of survival. Fatima Maia, director of the public university hospital where the abortion was performed, said the pregnancy, which was in its 15th week, posed a serious risk to the girl, who weighs 80 pounds. But Marcio Miranda, a lawyer for the Archdiocese of Olinda and Recife in northeastern Brazil, said the girl should have carried the twins to term and had a Caesarean section. xxx8220;Itxxx8217;s the law of God: Do not kill,xxx8221; he said in comments reported by the newspaper O Globo."
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So Irish Rose - you would force this child to have the baby? if you could?
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So Irish Rose - you would force this child to have the baby? if you could?
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Hi there, if you read my post above, you will know the answer to this question.......
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so you would force the little girl to have the baby even knowing that its likely to kill her. ok
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04-04-2009, 03:54 PM
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so you would force the little girl to have the baby even knowing that its likely to kill her. ok
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OK, using your logic here, you would take the life of two precious, and innocent babies?
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Well please read the whole thread. In my opinion early term abortions do not deal with babies. To save the life of the mother by ending an early pregnancy should never be prevented. If the fetus / embryo has no feelings or cognitive thought then the mother's life should always come first unless she CHOOSES otherwise.
She - being of legal age and mentally capable, otherwise its a guardians choice.
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04-04-2009, 06:29 PM
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Well please read the whole thread. In my opinion early term abortions do not deal with babies. To save the life of the mother by ending an early pregnancy should never be prevented. If the fetus / embryo has no feelings or cognitive thought then the mother's life should always come first unless she CHOOSES otherwise.
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LIFE begins at the moment of "conception", therefore to take the life of the fetus/embryo is still considered murder as far as I'm concerned. I also respectfully disagree with you that it is the mothers choice here. IMHO, it's God's CHOICE, not the mothers.
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LIFE begins at the moment of "conception", therefore to take the life of the fetus/embryo is still considered murder as far as I'm concerned. I also respectfully disagree with you that it is the mothers choice here. IMHO, it's God's CHOICE, not the mothers.
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While I agree with you 100%, Ill go a head and tell you there are many here who will disagree with you. Some will also question your beliefs in this as well.
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04-05-2009, 07:38 PM
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While I respect the opinions of others on this subject, my own personal opinion is that Abortion, or "Murder" as I like to call it, is wrong period, no matter what the situation is.
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Do you also equate taking a 'morning after pill' with murder?
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04-06-2009, 07:51 AM
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Do you also equate taking a 'morning after pill' with murder?
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I equate it with the acknowledgment of stupidity.
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04-06-2009, 08:24 AM
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I equate it with the acknowledgment of stupidity.
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Lol! Touché.
But remember now, irrationality is a conserved trait.
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But remember now, irrationality is a conserved trait.
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Indeed. I am about to attend a full demonstration with labs and discussions to follow (read: a staff meeting). Ta-ta!
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04-06-2009, 03:44 PM
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Do you also equate taking a 'morning after pill' with murder?
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Yes, because the final result of this drug being the expulsion, and loss of the embryo (human life).
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While I agree with you 100%, Ill go a head and tell you there are many here who will disagree with you. Some will also question your beliefs in this as well.
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I'll stand behind my beliefs, no worries.
I don't mind if people disagree with me, everyone has a right to his or her own opinion, and I can respect that.
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