[Treo Dude]

Originally Posted by hf1khal

APN is th access point for the internet. Even though you see a Cingular Browser on the BB it is actualy being acces via the balckberry network. The voice plan is just a voice plan and if you go to the unlimited int' BB plan then teh BB plan that needs to upgraded and not the voice plan. T Mobile does have international roaming but again you will be roaming fees with them too. You are better off with NA plan if you travel to Canada a lot.

so now the question is where to get an 8700C cheap without a contract so i can add it to my plan.

[hf1khal]

Originally Posted by Treo Dude

so now the question is where to get an 8700C cheap without a contract so i can add it to my plan.

Look at the amazon thread there might be a way that is mentioned over there.

[WasJustAboutToBuy8700r]

I have been thinking about joining the BB world and had discussed it at length with Rogers and the Rep on the phone told me that the Unlimited now = 100 mb. I asked him several times and he confirmed it each time so y'all might want to call in about this. I spoke to them on Thursday of last week (March 02 2006).

[DocGo]

Well, the website does not reflect this 100mb thing yet...maybe they have not yet updated their website?

** Rogers Wireless reserves the right to limit usage and charge $7 per additional MB for excessive usage over 25 MB of data per month.
Offer includes 3 months of unlimited local calling and 3 months of unlimited text messages, excluding premium messages (Roaming, International, MSN Alerts, Contests and Promotions), unlimited picture messages and unlimited video messages if supported by your phone, and is available on 2 or 3-year term only. Unlimited picture and video messaging begins at time of activation.

[Mark Rejhon]

I just called Rogers. No dice. Still 25 megabytes. That 100 megabyte plan is for the Treo.

However, they did say "We are aware of the situation. Um, we are working on it, we are coming out with new technology by fall we will definitley need more blackberry plans but for now this is the biggest one we have"

Obvoiusly, that refers to the HSDPA / UMTS BlackBerry slated for Q3 -- the BlackBerry model 8707 mentioned in another BlackBerryForums thread in the Rumors area - this model is visible if you view the BlackBerry driver files in a text editor.

[KonTiki]

Originally Posted by Mark Rejhon

I just called Rogers. No dice. Still 25 megabytes. That 100 megabyte plan is for the Treo.

However, they did say "We are aware of the situation. Um, we are working on it, we are coming out with new technology by fall we will definitley need more blackberry plans but for now this is the biggest one we have"

Obvoiusly, that refers to the HSDPA / UMTS BlackBerry slated for Q3 -- the BlackBerry model 8707 mentioned in another BlackBerryForums thread in the Rumors area - this model is visible if you view the BlackBerry driver files in a text editor.

How or better yet why is Rogers going to be getting a second Version of the 8700 series when so many other carriers do not have the first one yet?

[Mark Rejhon]

Originally Posted by KonTiki

How or better yet why is Rogers going to be getting a second Version of the 8700 series when so many other carriers do not have the first one yet?

All the carriers will have the 8700 by the time Rogers gets to release the UMTS/HSDPA 8707. That's still 6 months or so from now.

It may not be till Q4 of course, whenever they launch the UMTS network, but they said they did want to launch the network this year.

[lindmar]

Originally Posted by WasJustAboutToBuy8700r

I have been thinking about joining the BB world and had discussed it at length with Rogers and the Rep on the phone told me that the Unlimited now = 100 mb. I asked him several times and he confirmed it each time so y'all might want to call in about this. I spoke to them on Thursday of last week (March 02 2006).

I wish this was true

[mekmaier]

I am both sad and disgusted with Rogers. This is just the latest insult in an on-going saga with one of our "top" communications companies and I use that term very loosely. I find this totally unconscionable since many of the people signing up for the "unlimited" plan are not tech savvy consumers.

Please start using any means possible to get the word out about this petition on Google and blogs before Rogers leads us deeper down the "disservice industry" trail.

My favourite comment in the petition was number 188. - I'm on the 25MB "unlimited-but-not-REALLY-unlimited-we're-just-kidding" Plan

Thank you for your efforts!

mek

[tweebs]

I just did a quick calculation, and figured out it would take you 14 mins and 46 secs to use the entire 25MB with CONSTANT usage on an EDGE network. This would probably only be possible if you were using your BB as a modem using Shark modem or something.

Here the math:

(25MB * 1024 MB/KB * 1024 KB/B * 8 Byte/bit) / (236.8 kbps (theorical speed of EDGE network) * 1000kbps/bps)

Does Roges expect us to believe that unlimited should be limited to less then 15 mins of usage per month, lol!

Ryan
First Post!

[va2004abc]

It appears as if Rogers has removed the Unlimited wording from their website and now state 25MB for the $60 BlackBerry plan.

[SilverSurfer95]

Originally Posted by va2004abc

It appears as if Rogers has removed the Unlimited wording from their website and now state 25MB for the $60 BlackBerry plan.

Sucks to be them

[morser]

Reply from Rogers support email I sent asking for a higher data plan for the blackberry. I've sent one every week for some time.
*****************
Dear MOrser

Thank you for your email to our Online Inquiry Service. We appreciate
the opportunity to respond to your inquiry.

In your email you have inquired about our Blackberry plans. We do offer
a plan at $90.00. You may view the details in www.rogers.com under
Plans and Essentials/Blackberry plans.

At Rogers we appreciate your service. Please feel free to contact us
again we we can be of service.
**************

[morser]

BUT, now it reads $60 for 10mb and $90 for 25mb. Am i reading that right?

[stevew]

Originally Posted by morser

Reply from Rogers support email I sent asking for a higher data plan for the blackberry. I've sent one every week for some time.
*****************
Dear MOrser

Thank you for your email to our Online Inquiry Service. We appreciate
the opportunity to respond to your inquiry.

In your email you have inquired about our Blackberry plans. We do offer
a plan at $90.00. You may view the details in www.rogers.com under
Plans and Essentials/Blackberry plans.

At Rogers we appreciate your service. Please feel free to contact us
again we we can be of service.
**************

After 15 years of Robbers Wireless...switched to Bell Mobilite...got a way better phone plan at 1/2 the price and....500MB data plan for the same price as the Robbers 25MB, we moved 10 phones away from those thieves to Bell...Robbers sucks...using the 7130 now which has some nice things over the 8700 (keyboard on the 8700 sucks)...but no home screen shortcuts...hard to live without, and the 7130 eats batteries due to the 1X network...EVO not faster than EDGE...but I can live with all of this to spend MUCH less money at the end of the day. With 10 BB's here...we save over 20K /yr by being with Bell and the phones were 100% free for switching over. Bye bye Robbers for good!

[SilverSurfer95]

Originally Posted by stevew

After 15 years of Robbers Wireless...switched to Bell Mobilite...got a way better phone plan at 1/2 the price and....500MB data plan for the same price as the Robbers 25MB, we moved 10 phones away from those thieves to Bell...Robbers sucks...using the 7130 now which has some nice things over the 8700 (keyboard on the 8700 sucks)...but no home screen shortcuts...hard to live without, and the 7130 eats batteries due to the 1X network...EVO not faster than EDGE...but I can live with all of this to spend MUCH less money at the end of the day. With 10 BB's here...we save over 20K /yr by being with Bell and the phones were 100% free for switching over. Bye bye Robbers for good!

I hear you man, but I had to chose between Robbers Wireless and Smell Mobility. Problem is that if you do any overseas traveling, Smell Mobility is virtually useless. One can only hope that resaon and shear user frustration will force Teddy Rogers to listen.

[va2004abc]

Originally Posted by morser

BUT, now it reads $60 for 10mb and $90 for 25mb. Am i reading that right?

The $90 plan is a combination voice and data plan. The highest data only blackberry plan is still $60.

[dtx]

I work for Rogers, and i understand everyones frustration with the cap. "Unlimited" should be unlimited. They enforce the cap, so people don't use their Blackberries as modems on their laptops, as we sell the Sony EDGE card for that purpose.
I used 21MB last month, but that was with a 7280, now that i have a 8700, i'm sure i'll go over my limit, faster data, means more data. I think they should keep some kind of cap, but put it at 100MB (like the Treo Data plan). I'd sign a petition, if it didn't threaten my job.

[morser]

DTX, question.
Why does rogers charge so much? i'm not *****ing, i am looking for a technical reason. is the cost of their data infrastructure really that expensive? what is their goal with the most expensive data prices in the industry? If you don't know can you politely ask? My questions to rogers support go unanswered or i'm giving unacceptable "form" answers.

[chirayu]

Signed, what a whole bunch of crooks. Good luck with your petition.

Regards,
Chirayu Patel