[havaloc]

For clarification, your gripe is with T-mobile and not with the phone itself?

Originally Posted by boygenius

No, im not talking about RF

[bjallen2880]

I'm confused by the end of this statement:

Originally Posted by boygenius

...screenshots had cingular because the prototypes are unlocked and Cingular kills T-Mobile in reception

How would an unlocked phone allow a different carrier's signal take over the phone? Roaming is governed by the carriers as to which towers they wish to share with other carriers. An unlocked phone only allows the consumer to place a different carrier's SIM card in the phone for use on that network.

Can you explain your statement please?

[BES admin]

Originally Posted by bjallen2880

I'm confused by the end of this statement:



How would an unlocked phone allow a different carrier's signal take over the phone? Roaming is governed by the carriers as to which towers they wish to share with other carriers. An unlocked phone only allows the consumer to place a different carrier's SIM card in the phone for use on that network.

Can you explain your statement please?

I would guess it means just what most people have experienced:

T-Mobile Reception (Signal strength and tower availability) is not as good as Cingular's. In other words, you will get a stronger signal and better reception in more areas when this phone is used on a Cingular network because Cingular has more towers in more places allowing for greater signal strength.

...Of course, this is true with any device which is GSM, not limited to the Pearl, when using them on Cingular and Tmobile, comparatively.

[jeremy]

He's obviously using a Cingular SIM.

Originally Posted by bjallen2880

I'm confused by the end of this statement:



How would an unlocked phone allow a different carrier's signal take over the phone? Roaming is governed by the carriers as to which towers they wish to share with other carriers. An unlocked phone only allows the consumer to place a different carrier's SIM card in the phone for use on that network.

Can you explain your statement please?

[Boy Genius]

You guys missed the point, there was 2 comments, one about the 8100 RF reception, and 1 about Cingular coverage. Point one was take a t-mobile sim and put it in an 8700, and then put it in an 8100, the 8100 has worse RF. Second point, Cingular's coverage is better than T-Mobile

[richard371]

Tomorrow is going to be fun.

[doppler]

I always thought TMobile phones could roam on Cingular towers. Was I misinformed? I'll agree that Cingular's coverage seems to be better in most places, but wouldn't my phone hop onto a Cingular signal?

[AlwaysOn607]

Doppler, T-Mo uses Cingular roaming often, but not in every area. Where I live Cingular has great coverage, but T-Mo roams on Dobson, who's coverage isn't so good (in my area).

[brianlamar]

on my 7100 i can go to the network setting and choose which network i want to be on if what i'm on is a weak signal.

[BluePolaski]

Originally Posted by brianlamar

on my 7100 i can go to the network setting and choose which network i want to be on if what i'm on is a weak signal.

I just did that too. Never saw before that I could choose which network. There has to be some drawback to this though? Extra Costs? Something like that?

[jddphd]

Originally Posted by BluePolaski

I just did that too. Never saw before that I could choose which network. There has to be some drawback to this though? Extra Costs? Something like that?

If the costs are contingent upon which network you roam then I think your carrier would be obligated to disclose this to you.

[AlwaysOn607]

I can choose the network on my 7100t and the Cingular network shows up. But in my area, it won't actually connect.

[shaqinsactown]

Cingular will be taking back some of their bandwith from T-Mobile very soon. T-Mobile customers on the west coast will be sad. That's most likely why T-Mobile is pushing so hard for UMA

[secrecyguy]

Originally Posted by boygenius

It is a retail version like Pizzle said, same thing your buying tomorrow. In response to
1) Isn't saying decent as a phone but in the same post saying the reception is the worst of any Blackberry contradictory?

No, im not talking about RF im saying when you have service the phone works fine, its comfortable and small, screenshots had cingular because the prototypes are unlocked and Cingular kills T-Mobile in reception

oh... so you saying T-mobile don't have good reception... I could live with that. That's what I have now anyway.

I am more concern about the price so that's why I have T-mobile.

[secrecyguy]

Originally Posted by boygenius

You guys missed the point, there was 2 comments, one about the 8100 RF reception, and 1 about Cingular coverage. Point one was take a t-mobile sim and put it in an 8700, and then put it in an 8100, the 8100 has worse RF. Second point, Cingular's coverage is better than T-Mobile

ok... now you saying that 8100 have worst reception than the 8700 on T-mobile. Right?

[Boy Genius]

YES, apples to apple guys, 8100 reception is worse than any other berry regardless of carrier, on 8700 I would get 1-2 bars at my office, and 8100 maybe 1 bar usually stays on searching for 30min at a time (on T-Mobile)

[secrecyguy]

Originally Posted by AlwaysOn607

Doppler, T-Mo uses Cingular roaming often, but not in every area. Where I live Cingular has great coverage, but T-Mo roams on Dobson, who's coverage isn't so good (in my area).

That's true. It depends on the agreement T-mobile made with Cingular.

If it can get T-mobile and Cingular reception, even if T-mobile is weak, it will go into T-mobile.

[kwang98131]

so what BB has the best RF reception out of the BB family BG?

[Zro]

Originally Posted by boygenius

Cons:
Horrible playback speaker (mp3s, ringtones)

It is better than some other phones I've tried

Originally Posted by boygenius

Worst RF reception of any BlackBerry

I've found this reception WAY better than my 8700 or 7130. But that's on Rogers.

Originally Posted by boygenius

Extremely low vibrate

I agree, but do like that I can change the number of vibrates

Originally Posted by boygenius

Video player is fine but converting videos, even to the specs released by RIM give many problems, some play only audio with black screen, some skip a lot and then freeze the whole device.

Every video I've tried works great. What are you using to encode them? try using the mplayer encoder. Works like a charm (or pearl in this case).

Originally Posted by boygenius

File structure is terrible, the device only lets you use files from the designated areas for instance, you downloaded an mp3, and saved it to music folder, you goto profiles to set that mp3, and its not available because its not in ringtones folder, no problem just move it to the folder right? Wrong. You can't move any files out of the original folders.

Highlight the file and click the BB button for the full menu, see the Move option there? Or you can go into the explore view and manage files.

Originally Posted by boygenius

You can not download large files, the same limits apply from the 8700 around 500kb I believe

Service configuration and not the device

Originally Posted by boygenius

You can listen to .wav attachments but not mp3s

BES limitation. I wonder if since it can do .wav's with SP2 that you can add .mp3 to the extension list?

Originally Posted by boygenius

Memory card size is limited to 1GB

Possibly fixed with software updates.

Out of curiosity, what version of handheld code is running on your Pearl BG?

These are just my opinions/views, as are BG's.

Zro