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davistld01 · 06-20-2007, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by chillspace

Kind of funny comparing a beta app only in testing and a released product. Shame.

Even funnier that the beta app that is still in the perfecting stages...is clearly claiming better reviews than the released product. That's a shame.

maximax · 06-20-2007, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by davistld01

Even funnier that the beta app that is still in the perfecting stages...is clearly claiming better reviews than the released product. That's a shame.

I didn't quite understand that!
Why is it a shame if the beta app is getting better reviews?

If people like the beta app they obviously give better reviews, where is the shame in that?

Implex · 06-20-2007, 09:39 PM

I second the thoughts
A beta can get a better reviews nothing wrong in it ...

someonexh · 06-21-2007, 05:20 AM

You guys must be reading a different thread. I have seen a ton of posts about how people are willing to shell out $25 for SmartView over the free one.. how is the beta one getting better reviews?

Dawg · 06-21-2007, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by someonexh

You guys must be reading a different thread. I have seen a ton of posts about how people are willing to shell out $25 for SmartView over the free one.. how is the beta one getting better reviews?

thats the same thing I am seeing I had the beta installed a whole 25 minutes before uninstalling and going back to SV

fritter · 06-21-2007, 07:00 AM

its funny how money is a big issue here. Unless you have it in writing about empower staying free the dont hold your breathe since SV was free during beta testing too.

eZainny · 06-21-2007, 07:19 AM

Man,

All these other companies trying to announce their software in these forums must really hate us

It seems like threads like this have been sitting up the top forever :D

Implex · 06-21-2007, 07:35 AM

Then you missed something
ani and adwiv have said that it shall remain free

anyways that matter is same as comparing a beta with a final

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Originally Posted by fritter

its funny how money is a big issue here. Unless you have it in writing about empower staying free the dont hold your breathe since SV was free during beta testing too.

Implex · 06-21-2007, 07:40 AM

illusions can be dangerous...
yahoo messenger had a similar illusion. gtalk chased it out of park ( though still in beta)

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Originally Posted by eZainny

Man,

All these other companies trying to announce their software in these forums must really hate us It seems like threads like this have been sitting up the top forever :D

maximax · 06-21-2007, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by LarryH

Have to say that even though I've purchased SmartView, this version of Empower seems, to me at least, to perform better. I don't use multiple accounts so I can't judge how well it handles replies, etc. For now, though, the navigation keys seem to perform well, it appears "faster" (I don't get the percentage fuel guage) and, when reading an email, hitting escape doesn't back you out of the program so you're facing the same email but without SV, but right back to the message list.

I'm sure both developers will keep working but, for now, Empower seems to be heading in the right direction.

here you go!

davistld01 · 06-21-2007, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by maximax

I didn't quite understand that!
Why is it a shame if the beta app is getting better reviews?

If people like the beta app they obviously give better reviews, where is the shame in that?

What I meant by my post is that it is funnier still that a beta version of a product that can only get better...is getting more positive reviews than a product that is finished, and apparently is as good as it is going to be...but claims to be a better product (faster, free, non-beta, proven...) than the competitors beta version of their soon-to-be-finished one.

Seems that before I started talking smack about how my product was so much better than a competitors...I would make sure that my finished, even free product was better by far than the product from the other guy.

Does that make any more sense...?

If not...oh, well.

Dawg · 06-21-2007, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by davistld01

What I meant by my post is that it is funnier still that a beta version of a product that can only get better...is getting more positive reviews than a product that is finished, and apparently is as good as it is going to be...but claims to be a better product (faster, free, non-beta, proven...) than the competitors beta version of their soon-to-be-finished one.

Seems that before I started talking smack about how my product was so much better than a competitors...I would make sure that my finished, even free product was better by far than the product from the other guy.

Does that make any more sense...?

If not...oh, well.

It may be out of Beta but zainy is still working on it. He replies to all reports of bugs and usually gets them sorted out very quickly.

John Clark · 06-21-2007, 10:36 AM

I'd still like to know where you guys are getting the idea that Empower will be "free". Sure, the beta is free. It's *possible* that it will be free but I've seen no mention that the finished product will be free. Most betas have a certain date or amount of time where they will quit working (I don't know if Empower has this or not.) It may not stay free. I've been using both side by side and I actually get more images opened using SmartView than with Empower. I like the small size and quick opening that Empower has but it doesn't actually do the job as well as SmartView. However, they are both great apps and really show a lot of future for HTML mail on the BB.

ahovis · 06-21-2007, 10:49 AM

Just updated Empower to .35 but still issues with displaying large emails as it will jump out to native view and the page down using the space bar functions only for the first page. SmartView handles the large email with no problem and navigation seems to work fine.

maximax · 06-26-2007, 09:08 AM

Ok, Empower v0.7 released for public beta. So let me see..

Berrysmart v1.0
More than half the functions still don't work even on 4.2 - Attachments? File? Save? Mark Unopened?
Absolutely no integration for older OS 4.0, 4.1 - no use if I can't reply in there.

Empower v0.7
Complete integration.
works on older OS.
and way faster

even though Empower is still in beta

someonexh · 06-26-2007, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by maximax

Ok, Empower v0.7 released for public beta. So let me see..

Berrysmart v1.0
More than half the functions still don't work even on 4.2 - Attachments? File? Save? Mark Unopened?
Absolutely no integration for older OS 4.0, 4.1 - no use if I can't reply in there.

Empower v0.7
Complete integration.
works on older OS.
and way faster

even though Empower is still in beta

... you have no idea.

maximax · 06-26-2007, 09:14 AM

So why don't you give some Mr Idea-Master

to me and to all ..

someonexh · 06-26-2007, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by maximax

So why don't you give some Mr Idea-Master

to me and to all ..

Check out the thread for SV.. he has listed some of the updates that are in the 2.0 upgrade.

fritter · 06-26-2007, 09:20 AM

True but keep in mind which one is stayed in beta the longest!

anyways that matter is same as comparing a beta with a final[/QUOTE]

maximax · 06-26-2007, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by someonexh

Check out the thread for SV.. he has listed some of the updates that are in the 2.0 upgrade.

Oh yes, I checked it out..

Reply will work now in v2.0
And Forward will work now in v2.0.. even though he mentions on his website - "Complete Integration" - from the day it was launched !

And still no integration with older OS 4.0, 4.1 ! But proudly mentioned on the site is - "Works on all OS 4.0.2 and above"

I almost lost my $25..

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