[ricpac]

Yup, I wouldn't wanna mess with juwaack68 as she has helped me out with one of my very first questions http://www.blackberryforums.com/gene...ail-block.html

I have good memory
BTW, kind of OT (and a follow up) if we all start receiving HTML emails as standard once the new OS comes out (hopefully), I doubt if they would be sent in 2KBs by then huh? Or what?

[juwaack68]

Originally Posted by ricpac

Yup, I wouldn't wanna mess with juwaack68 as she has helped me out with one of my very first questions http://www.blackberryforums.com/gene...ail-block.html

I have good memory
BTW, kind of OT (and a follow up) if we all start receiving HTML emails as standard once the new OS comes out (hopefully), I doubt if they would be sent in 2KBs by then huh? Or what?

Awwww...

As to the OT question....EXCELLENT question! Something for us mods to discuss during our seekrit meetings.

EDIT: I thought your OT question was good enough for it's own thread, so have moved the first 3 posts to this new thread.

Original thread these are from is here: http://www.blackberryforums.com/gene...downloads.html

[ricpac]

Yes please! HTML email is good for everyone but not *that* good for us folks without unlimited data plans

[juwaack68]

Along with the question about the effect on the data size, I'm also curious if this is something that can be turned on/off on the BES and/or the handheld.

EDIT: I believe that the BES IT Policy would be able to control this, and not force BES devices to receive HTML email unless the company deems that wanted/necessary.

Also, if the data size does increase, it will be interesting to see if the carriers adjust the BB data plans they offer accordingly. That is, offer something other than a single 'capped' plan and unlimited plan (like 2-3 'capped' plans instead of just 1, as well as unlimited).

[Sith_Apprentice]

Originally Posted by juwaack68

Along with the question about the effect on the data size, I'm also curious if this is something that can be turned on/off on the BES and/or the handheld.

EDIT: I believe that the BES IT Policy would be able to control this, and not force BES devices to receive HTML email unless the company deems that wanted/necessary.

Also, if the data size does increase, it will be interesting to see if the carriers adjust the BB data plans they offer accordingly. That is, offer something other than a single 'capped' plan and unlimited plan (like 2-3 'capped' plans instead of just 1, as well as unlimited).

Yes it can be turned off via BES. I think we will see even the canadian carriers moving towards an unlimited plan with this. i doubt anything would be done before the bis 2.5 upgrade, but who knows

[aiharkness]

A side question, maybe. I've absorbed from reading the forums, articles about blackberry, especially when blackberry maps was released, that RIM takes data economy very seriously. I've also gathered that RIM sees network capacity being an issue and data economy becoming even more important in the future. I assume nothing has changed. Any thoughts along these lines? Makes me think if and when html email comes to the native blackberry email, it will be possible to turn it off at the BIS, where what we will have in the "off" setting will be essentially what we see now, more or less.

[juwaack68]

The ability to turn it on or off will be great. Especially for those companies and individuals who chose the Blackberry solution due to text only emails (thereby pretty much eliminating the threat of a virus - which is an entirely different thread here somewhere).

[Sith_Apprentice]

Originally Posted by aiharkness

A side question, maybe. I've absorbed from reading the forums, articles about blackberry, especially when blackberry maps was released, that RIM takes data economy very seriously. I've also gathered that RIM sees network capacity being an issue and data economy becoming even more important in the future. I assume nothing has changed. Any thoughts along these lines? Makes me think if and when html email comes to the native blackberry email, it will be possible to turn it off at the BIS, where what we will have in the "off" setting will be essentially what we see now, more or less.

i am going to guess it will be in the email settings of 4.5 with the service books pushed from BIS 2.5. of course this is a pure guess.

[aiharkness]

Originally Posted by Sith_Apprentice

i am going to guess it will be in the email settings of 4.5 with the service books pushed from BIS 2.5. of course this is a pure guess.

I didn't say it right. What I meant is, whether set on the handheld or set at the BIS portal, the control will be at the BIS so that if "off" the conversion to text will be at the BIS (as we see now) and hence the lower data useage of text. What would be interesting in that case is if there is a "retrieve all" feature to retrieve the full html if you desire. Just speculating and thinking what if.

[Sith_Apprentice]

Originally Posted by aiharkness

I didn't say it right. What I meant is, whether set on the handheld or set at the BIS portal, the control will be at the BIS so that if "off" the conversion to text will be at the BIS (as we see now) and hence the lower data useage of text. What would be interesting in that case is if there is a "retrieve all" feature to retrieve the full html if you desire. Just speculating and thinking what if.

ah i misunderstood. to this i have no idea. it would be make sense that it would be a setting in the BIS (hopefully can be set from the email setup wizard on the device), but would also be nice if there was a backup on the device to set it per account as well.

[SheepDog]

Originally Posted by juwaack68

The ability to turn it on or off will be great. Especially for those companies and individuals who chose the Blackberry solution due to text only emails (thereby pretty much eliminating the threat of a virus - which is an entirely different thread here somewhere).

I guess I need to search for that thread. I had not given the first thought to BB being Virus vulnerable. I use an iMac, and tend to think the world is safe like me...

[juwaack68]

Originally Posted by SheepDog

I guess I need to search for that thread. I had not given the first thought to BB being Virus vulnerable. I use an iMac, and tend to think the world is safe like me...

Here it is (or at least one of the recent threads):

http://www.blackberryforums.com/gene...00c-virus.html

[aiharkness]

Originally Posted by SheepDog

I guess I need to search for that thread. I had not given the first thought to BB being Virus vulnerable. I use an iMac, and tend to think the world is safe like me...

EDIT: Never mind. It wasn't the thread I thought.

And BTW, I wasn't so much concerned about the BB being vulnerable as I was html email on the BB placing the BB in the transmission chain of malware to the next person/system when the email is forwarded.

[Sith_Apprentice]

its very basic HTML email but it looks pretty Images do not automatically download, you have to set it, it shows background colors and font colors/links properly. havent really tested much else.