I decided that as a matter of principle I would NOT be supporting Verizon's crippling of the 8830's built-in GPS. So I bought the Keychain GPS puck (one time cost) and can now use any 3rd party application I want. My favorite FREE navigation program (with spoken directions) is the Nav4All. I've found it very accurate and reliable AND I don't need to have any other GPS programs running in the background to use it. Just give the GPS puck 30 seconds or so initially to lock on to satellites before turning Nav4All on.
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