[Fat Ryan]

So Ive received my 3rd Bold today under the warranty exchange. Ive had countless issues with the others. With the reception going to "SOS" as a primary issue. I had the latest OS that let you switch to 2G, but now im no where near a 3G area anyways so it doesnt matter.

Anyways, Im getting really fed up with this thing. I paid $541 for it and Im having ridiculous issues. Id LOVE it if it just worked properly! AT&T said they cant send me a new oe cause they only have refurbs. And I know if I ask for something else, theyll just offer me like a Fuze or possibly a Javelin. I dont want the Fuze at all and the Javelin is nice, but its a step down from the Bold. Im not taking a hit to the wallet because BB made a crappy phone.

Is there anything I can do? Any way they could send me a new one or something GOOD? I guess they probably wouldnt send an unlocked Tour would they? lol How about a Bold 2? I heard rumors about it, whens it coming out?

[xplode]

Originally Posted by Fat Ryan

So Ive received my 3rd Bold today under the warranty exchange. Ive had countless issues with the others. With the reception going to "SOS" as a primary issue. I had the latest OS that let you switch to 2G, but now im no where near a 3G area anyways so it doesnt matter.

Anyways, Im getting really fed up with this thing. I paid $541 for it and Im having ridiculous issues. Id LOVE it if it just worked properly! AT&T said they cant send me a new oe cause they only have refurbs. And I know if I ask for something else, theyll just offer me like a Fuze or possibly a Javelin. I dont want the Fuze at all and the Javelin is nice, but its a step down from the Bold. Im not taking a hit to the wallet because BB made a crappy phone.

Is there anything I can do? Any way they could send me a new one or something GOOD? I guess they probably wouldnt send an unlocked Tour would they? lol How about a Bold 2? I heard rumors about it, whens it coming out?

Sounds like you will have to either accept a refurb replacement.. Or you can Wipe your device with JL_Cmdr and start fresh with a new OS.. OS .282 from vodafone or rogers.. or even .266 from vodafone.. at&t should be launching .285 soon. I would call at&t and talk to somone in tech support make sure there are no network issues in the areas that your around. This can often be a cause of what your seeing happen

[NJBlackBerry]

Are you in a marginal reception area? Phone itself may not matter. Dropping to SOS indicates no carrier coverage at all. Not sure that it is the phone since you've had 3 of them...

And I would doubt they'd send you a Tour as that is a CDMA device. And not on AT&T.

[miamirulz29]

You will probably have to go with a refurbished bold, they won't give you a new bold.

[fonejunkie]

AT&T's policy is to replace your new phone with a new phone in the first 30 days. Beyond 30 days, you will most likely get a refurb. There is an outside chance you will get a new one, but if they have refurbs in stock, that is what you will get for a warranty replacement months 2-12.

[littleman]

Wirelessly posted (bold 9000)

Have them check your sim card. I had a faulty card and when I switched towers while driving I would drop call then be without service for a min or two.

[Fat Ryan]

the area i was in before was philly suburbs. about 20 min north of me was the 3G border, so i was in a 3G area. i always had dropped calls there, it was terrible, pretty much every single call got dropped or failed. once i got the 3G turned off, the dropped calls stopped for the most part. but if the phone loses signal, it doesnt get it back when you are back in an area with reception, it just stays at SOS. and it seems to drop to SOS very easily or for o aparent reason.

now im here at virginia tech for grad school, no 3G here. ive been here for about a month and i have the same issues. i also recently started getting popups saying my certificates are invalid. these popups are VERY annoying cause they happen every 1-2 seconds.

i havent yet replaced my SIM card yet, but chances are its not that. ive read up a lot about the Bold...its garbage, thats pretty much everyones opinion. it has a LOT of potential, but BB *messed* up big time with some things. ive heard about so many Bold issues its not even funny. i worked for AT&T as a salesman for the last year and everyone who came up with a Bold had the same issues i did. also, ive tried stickin my SIM in spare 2610's i have and i get full reception with them while my Bold only has like 2-3 bars.

i do think, though, that ill take a trip down to the local AT&T store and get a free SIM just to make sure...

[miamirulz29]

Yeah, I think it has to do with your sim card. My bold was having problems, and they gave me a new sim, everything worked like a charm.

[Fat Ryan]

well then Bolds must fry SIM cards cause ive seen pretty much all my issues with countless Bolds at work

[Fat Ryan]

i just installed OS 5.0.0.90 (platform 4.3.0.16) on my replacement. i keep getting popups about uncaught exceptions. any idea what to do here? also, my recption seems to be worse now. i went from 2-3bars EDGE to 0-1 bars EDGE. WTF? ok now it says SOS! and in the options it says my mobile network provider is TMobile? WTF is goin on here?

[Fat Ryan]

now it wont let me reinstall 4.6.0.477 :(

[daphne]

Please watch the language. Thanks.

[Fat Ryan]

Originally Posted by daphne

Please watch the language. Thanks.

funny its not edited out automatically...

anyways, do you have any input on this issue?

[JSanders]

It's not edited out automatically because you should know better

The Bold is one of the best devices RIM has made, my favorite so far. I've had no problems, so your "everyone" statement is far from true.

Get a SIM exchange, for one thing.

Two, I have been in and out of the Va Tech area quite a bit and the ATT coverage there has improved somewhat over the past five years, but it's still not stellar unless you're firmly in a cell area.

Thirldy, don't expect your Bold to work anywhere near to correct with the 5.0.0.90 beta. Just don't even try. Go with the latest (.282) and be done.

So, what issues are you having installing that OS? Just saying it "won't let me" doesn't help anyone help you.

[Fat Ryan]

Originally Posted by JSanders

It's not edited out automatically because you should know better

The Bold is one of the best devices RIM has made, my favorite so far. I've had no problems, so your "everyone" statement is far from true.

Get a SIM exchange, for one thing.

Two, I have been in and out of the Va Tech area quite a bit and the ATT coverage there has improved somewhat over the past five years, but it's still not stellar unless you're firmly in a cell area.

Thirldy, don't expect your Bold to work anywhere near to correct with the 5.0.0.90 beta. Just don't even try. Go with the latest (.282) and be done.

So, what issues are you having installing that OS? Just saying it "won't let me" doesn't help anyone help you.

just cause you dont have issues doesnt mean its not a big issue. trust me man, if youve worked for AT&T as a salesman or CSR, you know. im from philly where the reception on any AT&T or Verizon phone ive ever used is stellar. the Bold is by far the worst for reception.

i know VT is kinda in the middle of nowhere. i guess i expected more given the size of the school and that my little boondock undergrad school was even more remote yet had a Verizon AND AT&T tower in the town lol.

i knew there were issues with 5.0, i never said it is supposed to wrok or anything like that. i was just seeing if it was a simple fix someone knew about. but now its just pissing me off so i want to go back to 4.6.

i deleted the vendor file and the 5.0OS file in the shared folder, then ran loader.exe...theres no mention of loading an OS now. im trying to find a thread about going from 5.0 back to 4.x because i feel like ive read somewhere thats theres more to it than simply going from 4.6.0.xxx to 4.6.0.xxx

[xplode]

Originally Posted by Fat Ryan

just cause you dont have issues doesnt mean its not a big issue. trust me man, if youve worked for AT&T as a salesman or CSR, you know. im from philly where the reception on any AT&T or Verizon phone ive ever used is stellar. the Bold is by far the worst for reception.

i know VT is kinda in the middle of nowhere. i guess i expected more given the size of the school and that my little boondock undergrad school was even more remote yet had a Verizon AND AT&T tower in the town lol.

i knew there were issues with 5.0, i never said it is supposed to wrok or anything like that. i was just seeing if it was a simple fix someone knew about. but now its just pissing me off so i want to go back to 4.6.

i deleted the vendor file and the 5.0OS file in the shared folder, then ran loader.exe...theres no mention of loading an OS now. im trying to find a thread about going from 5.0 back to 4.x because i feel like ive read somewhere thats theres more to it than simply going from 4.6.0.xxx to 4.6.0.xxx

dude .. are you sure you didnt put the sim card in upside down? because this will cause the issue you are complaining about.. uncaught exception and java error.. go check your sim card. and no bolds dont fry sim cards. thats an ignorant comment.. you need a new sim card from what it seems.. call att and see if theres any work being done in the area that your at.. if they give u a new sim card and theres no problems with the towers in the area, then blame your phone

[Fat Ryan]

Originally Posted by xplode

dude .. are you sure you didnt put the sim card in upside down? because this will cause the issue you are complaining about.. uncaught exception and java error.. go check your sim card. and no bolds dont fry sim cards. thats an ignorant comment.. you need a new sim card from what it seems.. call att and see if theres any work being done in the area that your at.. if they give u a new sim card and theres no problems with the towers in the area, then blame your phone

1. my SIM card works PERFECTLY in the other AT&T phones ive used (2 2610's, tilt, e71x, v3xx, 737)
2. they are not working on the towers
3. like ive stated, im getting a new SIM tomorrow

btw, i hope the question about puttig the SIM in upside down was a joke...

[xplode]

Originally Posted by Fat Ryan

1. my SIM card works PERFECTLY in the other AT&T phones ive used (2 2610's, tilt, e71x, v3xx, 737)
2. they are not working on the towers
3. like ive stated, im getting a new SIM tomorrow

btw, i hope the question about puttig the SIM in upside down was a joke...

It was actually a statement/question.. You wouldnt believe how many people on forums lack common sense... You ask for help and people tell you what you can try and you just complain and bash those who try to help.. I give up dude.. enjoy mediocre phone service due to ignorance.

[Fat Ryan]

Originally Posted by xplode

It was actually a statement.. You wouldnt believe how many people on forums lack common sense... You ask for help and people tell you what you can try and you just complain and bash those who try to help.. I give up dude.. enjoy mediocre phone service due to ignorance.

i wish i could be as e-popular as you... must takes years of threading to become so clever.

im going to bed, i have class at 8am. ill be back tomorrow once i get the new SIM, dont wait up.

[NJBlackBerry]

Originally Posted by Fat Ryan

im going to bed, i have class at 8am.

Well, that explains the know it all attitude.
Have fun.